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A performance-based
"demonstration" talk presented at the invitation of
the 4th AIDS Impact Conference in July, 1999, in Ottawa, Ontario.
Sister C's Angels:
"This is not a dress rehearsal"
Garry Johnson (a.k.a. "Sister C").
ABSTRACT
OBJECTIVES AND METHODS: Sister C is an inner-city urban legend and performance
artist who works miracles in the front lines of AIDS outreach
and associated endeavours. Using her outrageous performance style,
she will present her latest successful outreach: Sister C's Angels.
BACKGROUND:
Sister C has worked in frontline AIDS Outreach in Vancouver,
alone and in partnership with ASOs since 1990. The focus of the
Angel Project is to continue direct outreach with added emphasis
on peer interaction to stimulate discussion and modify behaviour.
DESCRIPTION OF DEMONSTRATION: Using comedy, music, safer sex demos and anecdotes,
Sister C will demonstrate the importance of humour and direct
interaction in outreach efforts.
You can do whatever you want
in here; this is a safe place. If you feel like laughing, laugh.
If you feel like crying, cry. If you feel like throwing up
throw up on him. Don't throw up on me. This frock cost
a lot of money.
All right. Hi! How are you? I am Sister C, and I am a Drag
Nun from Vancouver. (It's kind of like Drag-net, isn't it? I have
caught one or two in my net. But enough about my ex-husband...)
I have been called many things in my life. Many, many things.
"Nun of the above" that's my favourite. "Mother
Posterior" that's what they used to call me at F212,
which is a steam bath in Vancouver. I have been called "The
Nun of Your Fucking Business." It kind of says it all, doesn't
it?
Whatever it is that you want to call me, what you've got to
do is just get my attention, and the reason you have to get my
attention is because I'm a pretty busy person, and I'm usually
rushing through a crowd or wandering down the street or skateboarding
or trying my best to get out there and do all of the work that
all of the research says that we're supposed to be doing.
You're not going to get any statistics in here today; I'm not
going to bore you with all kinds of details. But hopefully I'm
going to move you a little bit and hopefully I'm going to say
to you that what you're doing is okay and what you're doing is
a great job and we need a little bit of a pick-me-up in the middle
of all of this war and trenches and stuff like that, and maybe
you're going to get a little bit of that from me today. And I'll
tell you how you're going to get that if you just follow
that simple little message right over there: "This is not
a dress rehearsal." This is the main event and we are all
on stage, every single one of us. And that comes from my dear
friend Maureen de Montezuma, who is much older and infinitely
much wiser than I am. Because there was a time in my life when
I said, "This is boring," and she said, "Well get
out there and live a little!" Look what happened.
I want to tell you how do you go from being kind of a
regular, outrageous person living in St. Anthony, Newfoundland,
to being a Drag Nun working the streets of Vancouver? It doesn't
happen overnight. It is a kind of a process that happens. First
you go get yourself some salted codfish No, that's not what
you do. I actually got involved in a relationship with a drag
queen who was much older than I, and much, much wiser than
I, and way out there in terms of his gay spirit - when I
was younger. And he had to do a performance at a show called "Christian
Women in the Church of the Poison Mind." And you ought to
know that I, like almost every gay man out there, have a few issues
with churches, not the least of which is that the most powerful
church in the world has a drag queen up at the top of it. He
wears nicer outfits than I do don't think I'm not
bitter about that.
Anyway, there we were, and of course this regular believe
it or not, you know, I couldn't believe this, but believe it or
not this drag queen was kind of a run-of-the-mill, regular old
drag queen, and he said, "I have no idea what to do. You're
kind of, you know, a bit antagonistic. Why don't you put
something together?"
So we did. We got a group of people together, and we put together
this performance which was, I have to say, very outrageous. "Agnes
of God" was a very popular movie around that time, and I
took inspiration from that movie. And we had people dressed up
as abortion-rights activists, and we had a nurse, and we had a
doctor, and we had a birthing coach, and we had me dressed up
as a nun very, very pregnant and we had a Mother Superior.
And in the middle of the performance the Mother Superior performed
an abortion. It was rather nasty. But I'm here to tell you the
baby lived. It was a Black baby, which made it even more controversial.
And when we walked off the stage, the audience either booed very,
very loudly, or they cheered very, very loudly. But nobody was
apathetic. Nobody! Everybody was moved in some way. And I thought,
"You know what? Like, this is a really good place for me
to explore some of those issues I have with the Church, and I'm
going to have an audience when I do it. And maybe other people
will be able to relate.
So there started a number of years of performing and trying
to understand my relationship as a gay man with the Church. It
was not easy. It's not easy. It's still not easy. I still don't
understand all of it. But I ended up meeting and making a lot
of friends. And of course we were in the middle of the AIDS crisis,
and so there were no end of opportunities to perform: there were
fundraisers, and there were walk-athons and there were cut-athons
and skate-athons and the one that I missed, the fuck-athon. I
so wanted to be there. But they just couldn't pay me enough.
Anyway, so there we were, doing all this fundraising, and all
of a sudden, as you can well imagine, AIDS starts to have a personal
impact on me. I knew lots of people with AIDS that was not
a big thing. Most of the people around me, probably, I just assumed
were HIV-positive. I don't know if the rest of the world did that,
but I did. But nobody had really died. You know we were all kind
of merrily prancing along and going out on stage and having these
outrageous performances, and then suddenly someone did die. And
that person was somebody who had been in a choir. I had done this
performance at the Commodore Ballroom. We were a bunch of nuns,
and I remember wearing the great big French wings, and we did
the song "Shout" do you know the song "Shout"?
It was so much fun. And I had what we called the Moron All Queer
Choir. It was made up of women and men and gays and straights
very inclusive and this guy named C.J., who was a
drag queen.
And then C.J. died. And C.J. actually reminds me of a lot of
what goes on in Mexico. C.J. was taken from Vancouver, where his
support circle was, and shipped back to Sault Ste. Marie, which
is where his family was, his family that he had been estranged
from for many, many years. And then a couple of months later we
got word that he was dead. And that was June.
And then in July...I had moved to Vancouver, and one of the
very first friends I ever made was this guy named Kevin. We worked
at Hamburger Mary's. And if any of you have ever been to Vancouver,
you know that Hamburger Mary's has got to be the gayest spot on
Davie Street, or at least when I worked there it was we
used to have drag queens actually waiting on tables in those days.
And every now and again, I used to...I started out washing dishes,
and I'd be so excited when we got a new mop in, because it was
a new wig, and I'd walk out into the dining room, hop up onto
table #5, it didn't matter who was sitting there, I just pushed
the cups out of the way, put my apron on just so, put the new
mop on, throw a quarter in the jukebox, and it always had to be
Aretha Franklin "Chain chain chain...chain of fools."
It was kind of my own personal tribute to the customers, you know.
Those were the days! And Kevin, Kevin had just moved from Toronto,
and Kevin taught me all kinds of things. He taught me one of the
most intimate things that I have ever learned as a gay man. He
said, when his boyfriend and him were having sex, they only had
sex facing each other cuz he had to look into his eyes. I had
never that had never occurred to me. It was always somebody
facing the wall, and somebody behind them. And Kevin turned me
around. I just loved him so much for telling me that. And Kevin
and I used to prep the burger buns you know, lettuce, two
tomatoes, a bit of mayo, whatever cuz Hamburger Mary's sold
a lot of? Hamburgers! (And a lot of pot; there was a dealer
who worked the floor).
Anyway, there we were making these buns and bonding, and Kevin
and I would go out dancing, and I remember so fondly what's-her-name,
Donna Summer yes, how that woman turned her back on us,
didn't she? Oh, that woman spent far too much time on her knees,
and it was not productive. Oh, you can take that right to L.A.
or wherever she is, my dear, and tell her while you're at it that
she needs a new hair-do. I am bitter, bitter about Donna Summer.
We did the last dance, I even put up with "McArthur Park,"
and then she turned into a Christian nut-case and started to condemn
me. I bought those albums; how dare she?
Anyway, I sidetracked. She recorded this album called "This
Time I Know It's for Real" do you remember that song?
And Kevin and I would go to a place called Numbers, and Kevin
couldn't dance. At all. But when that song came on he'd
hit the dance floor, and like somebody who was having an epileptic
seizure, he would be out there doing his thing: "This time,
this time, I know it's for reeeeaal! Whooo!" That would be
Kevin. Well I knew that Kevin was HIV-positive. I knew. But, you
know, I didn't really know, like, how far along, what his T-cell
count was, what his viral load was, whether he was on any of those
new pills, AZT...he never took any pills. When they actually packed
up his apartment after he died, they found boxes of pills. He
never took a single pill. Kevin was found hanging in a closet.
He took his own life, at his moment. And don't think that that
didn't impact me. That was July.
In August, something else happened. I have a hero, much like
you have heroes. I have a hero whose name is Vampyra, and Vampyra
is somebody who is an institution in Vancouver. Vampyra would
go out to the nightclubs and she would sit on a barstool, cross
over her legs, put her purse on the end of her foot, dangle it
up and down, dangle it up and down, and she'd say, "Come,
Sister dear, I wanna talk to you dear." That's the way Vampyra
talked. And I'd come over and I'd sit down on the barstool, and
she'd say, "Not too close, dear. I'm expecting a gentleman
caller. I don't want it to be mistaken to be you." Like there's
a chance!
Well Vampyra was, as far as I could see, the biggest and best
queer spirit I had ever seen. She was so far out there. She'd
walk down Davie Street, and if you were walking with her trying
to get to the drugstore, count on 45 minutes for a block, because
everybody stopped and talked to Vampyra. She had this purple
rinse in her hair, which was at that time not quite fashionable
for gay men, if I remember correctly. More fashionable for the
bingo crowd, if you know what I mean. But Vampyra, she'd just
bob along, didn't she? She'd just kind of mince along Davie Street,
and there she'd be, proud and queer. And you know what was the
best thing about Vampyra? Every single person had a purpose. Nobody
was useless in her world. She'd find something for you to do.
Back in the days of the bottle clubs that one drag queen
who didn't quite get her makeup right? The one who had got that
outfit from, you know, great-aunt Dorothy's closet, and it looked
like it Vampyra would put her at the back with a bottle
of rum, and she'd sell shots for a buck or so, and Vampyra would
take 75 cents. Vampyra had a purpose for everybody. It was wonderful!
In Vampyra's world, everybody had a purpose.
And then one day I was performing at a place called the Heritage
House Hotel, and I'm up on stage and Vampyra's in the audience,
and I can still remember the song: (sings) "I ain't
never gonna love nobody but Cornell Crawford, he's the one that
turns me on. He's gonna pick me up in his pick-up truck. He's
gonna take me down the road to have a little fuuuuuuuun. He's
got a pack of Camels. He's got a quart of whiskey, and it's all
wrapped up in a brown paper bag. Oh that Cornell is so sweet,
and he knows how to treat this girl so good, yeah." And I
walked down off of that stage, and Vampyra called me over
and keep it in mind that I was to sit one barstool away
I sat down beside her, and I leaned over and Vampyra said, "Sister
dear, do you know what? I like you." I said, "Really,
Vampy? I like you too." She said, "No, Sister dear,
I like you cuz you're just like me."
I couldn't believe she said that. I know to some of you that
may sound like a really stupid little thing, but Vampyra was what
I wanted to be. Vampyra was not afraid. Vampyra was courageous.
She wasn't afraid about walking down Davie Street and letting
everybody in the whole wide world know that she was gay. I hadn't
gotten to that point yet. So Vampyra was my hero.
And then, as it goes, Vampyra died. That was August.
You know, one of the great things about being a performer is
you get to meet these other fabulous and amazing performers, and
one of those performers who was my age, born in the exact same
month, March of 1965, was my friend Larry Battiuk. He went by
the drag name Zola. And him and I used to travel up and down the
coast, from San Francisco all the way across to Edmonton and Winnipeg,
and we were famous for doing one routine: there's a song called
"In the Mood" from the '40s, you probably remember it.
And we would captivate the audiences. I walked out on stage wearing
my very customary black and white nun's habit, looking very much
for all the world like that evil, evil schoolteacher that you
all had, you know her, Sister Mary Margaret or whatever her name
was I never got over that Sister Mary Gerard stuff. You
know, when they started calling them men I thought, "This
is it. We know you're lesbians. Stop pushing it down my throat!"
Anyway, there I'd come out, looking like that Sister Mary
Margaret or Sister Mary Gerard, and Zola would come out in some
fabulous Las Vegas red sequinny slit-up-to-here and slit-up-to-there
and cut-down-to-there kind of outfit, and we'd start the song
"In the Mood."
Now I was there to do deaf interpretation for the people who
were not quite mentally with-it enough to understand exactly what
my dear friend Zola was doing. And he'd work that runway or wherever
we were, that stage, and he'd pump the energy level up higher
and he'd pump it up higher, and of course the more he pumped up,
the faster I'd have to do my deaf interpretation. I cannot do
a single bit of sign language, I'm here to tell you. Not one bit.
But that particular performance didn't require a whole lot of
sign language. As you can well imagine, as the performance went
on, my sign language got more and more graphic to the point where
they were no longer watching him, they were watching me, this
crazy nun who had actually put things into a whole different sign
language, and of course the number ended with the two of us doing
this fabulous choreographed you know how drag queens are,
we were choreographed right to the last step, right, until one
of us fell off the stage. And we would do that all over the place,
anywhere we got a chance, we just loved to do that number,
and in the afternoon we'd go for coffee, and if I was working
he might call me at work and say, "Hey what are you doing
tonight?" We had that kind of friendship, friendships that
you all have. And then he died. That was the end of August. That
was number four. And I was starting to lose my mind, if I hadn't
already lost it. I remember talking to Larry at the hospital on
the phone because I couldn't go to the hospital, and it was like
talking to a voice from another world. It was so clear. He knew
what I needed to know and he was trying to tell me. And we don't
get it. We don't get it. But if you get the chance to hear that
voice that comes from another world, listen to it, even if you
just get a little bit of it. It's a glimpse, that's all we get.
Anyway, that was my friend Larry, and I loved him very very
very much. And then I went to some grief counseling. I actually
went to my doctor, and said, "I don't know what's the matter
with me doctor. I've just done an eight-ball of cocaine, I've
downed 40-ouncer after 40-ouncer after 40-ouncer, and it's not
getting any better. The pain is still hard." And my doctor
said to me, "Well, we'll talk about this, but I want you
to promise me for at least 30 days, you won't do any drugs and
you won't do any liquor." Thirty days! What's 30 days? Nothing.
Nothing. Nothing. So, and true enough, 30 days I didn't do anything,
and at the end of 30 days I saw him and he said, "You know,
there's this really great grief group."
"I'm not suffering from grief," I said to him. "It's
not grief. I can't sleep. I'm a little bit irritable. I really,
really don't want to go to any of the gigs that I used to go to
anymore. Uh, you know my mood is a little low. I'm really depressed.
Maybe you could give me a bit of Prozac. But it's not grief."
And he said, "You know, why don't you just go and check
this out." And I did. And Andrew Johnson, who is now the
director of AIDS Vancouver, was the person who facilitated that
group, and we sat around at Friends for Life, which is one of
the type of ASOs in Vancouver (I'm not sure if they'd want to
be called an ASO, but to me they were), and I sat around with
this group of people who were just like me and you: His
mother had died of cancer, his partner had died of AIDS,
her dog and cat had both died in the same week, and his
mother and father had both died in a car crash. There were people
who had died of cancer, people who had died of heart attacks,
all kinds of people, and then there was me, and I sat there, we
introduced ourselves, we went around, and I said, "You know,
I really don't think I need to be here. You know, you've lost
your mother, you lost your partner, that's awful. Oh, and you
lost your son, I feel so terrible. I just lost a few friends;
it's not that bad." Andrew called me at home after that first
night and he said, "You know what? I hope you're going to
come back." I said, "Well, I was kind of thinking not,
cuz you know those guys are really bad off, you know, but I am
not bad off. I mean, let's face it: nothing a good stiff drink
couldn't handle." He said, "No, please come back."
About 10 weeks later I had finished it and Andrew said to me
he was so worried because I was experiencing that kind of compound
grief thing you know, you never really recover from the
first one and then you're on to the second one, and then you never
really recover from that one and you're on to the next one?
it was that kind of a thing. And you know what? That process of
recovering from that or whatever that is, is ongoing. You never
ever ever stop. And you know what I've learned, though? Is that
I can celebrate the lives of my friends because I've introduced
you to all of them, to those four, you know who they are,
they're here. C.J. is here. Kevin is here. Vampyra is here. And
Zola is here. Because I'm here. They're always here. I
take those people with me everywhere I go. It is my job to keep
them alive. That is my job. And many other things.
So what happens then? I still haven't got you to this point:
That was the motivation behind what I was doing. One of the things
that we had to do was we had to take back a little of our own
power, that's what Andrew Johnson told me. You gotta take back
a little bit. So I started this little box, and inside that box
I put a pair of earrings that Zola had given me, and I put a newspaper
clipping about Vampyra, and I put a photograph of C.J., and I
put a card that Kevin had made for me. And then as other people
tested positive I put things about them in there. And then as
other people died I put their obituaries in there. And I kept
that box in my living room and anybody who came over could go
through it and I would gladly tell them all about it, if you wanted
to. It was there, it was my own memorial to these people. And
then I got to thinking about what Andrew said.
So I was at the show one night, and I was working with this
young drag queen you ever worked with a young drag queen?
Mission Impossible you know, I said when they showed me
this room, I said, "I don't think this room is going to be
big enough. Do you realize who I am? Do you know who I am? I am
Sister C from Vancouver! Every single seat will be filled. You're
gonna have to grease people along the sides just to get them in
the door!" That's the way a young drag queen thinks: "They're
all looking at me; it's my world, it's so wonderful!" And
then this guy walked over and he was kind of a handsome stud,
and he said to her, "Hey, what are you doing after the show?"
And she said, "I'm yoooouuuurrrrsss!!!" Something just
like that. And I had a couple of condoms in my purse. And it was
the simplest thing in the world that I could do, and it was the
words of Andrew Johnson that came through into my head. I pulled
the condoms out of my purse and I put them into her purse. That's
all I had to do. And I said, "Have a good night, sweetie.
Have a really good night." And I went home feeling a little
bit better. It was all about me; it really was. Nothing to do
with her.
So there I was, feeling a little bit better about myself, and
you know, I got to thinking, "Well, I like that Carlotta.
I wonder if she ever actually goes out and buys a box of condoms?"
You know what I mean? And then there's Vivien I know Vivien
don't have no money. And I wonder if they've ever been up to the
Gay & Lesbian Centre where you can get free condoms? So the
next day I went up to the Gay & Lesbian Centre, and I stole
144 condoms. And that night we went out to do a show, and I handed
out most of them! Those girls were eating those things up like
they had never seen a condom in their lives! They were sucking
them up like it was a double rum & coke! So I ran out of condoms.
Backstage! Never made it out to the front. The next day, up to
the Gay & Lesbian Centre I went, and stole another box of
condoms (they were so nice back in those days, they would just
put them on the coffee table underneath and think nobody'll ever
see them there). Well the third day when I went up to the Gay
& Lesbian Centre to steal yet another box of condoms, there
was a little sign: "These condoms are for personal use only."
Well I felt like I was personally using them! I mean how were
they to know that I don't sleep with 144 men in one evening?
So, I stole another box of condoms, but, I then went down the
hallway and I saw this guy sitting there and he had no hair, and
I thought he was really cute when I first saw him, and I still
think he's kind of cute today, and his name is Steve Martindale
many of you know him. And I had, tucked under my arm, like
Robin Hood, a box of condoms, and he said to me, "Oy! Where
are you going?" And I said, "Oh....home." And he
said, "Uhm, what are you doing with those condoms?"
And I said, "Oh, gonna hand them out." And he said,
"To who?" And I said, "Just, you know, to my friends."
And he said, "Who are your friends?" I thought he wanted
a date, you know? I really did. He probably did. I said to him,
"These condoms are for my friends."
Well, that started a beautiful marriage. Steve Martindale and
I became very good friends. Steve Martindale is like Vampyra.
He thinks there's a use for everybody. And that's magic. If you've
got that, you've got it going on. He doesn't think that this is
a dress rehearsal; he know this is the main event. And Steve would
look at me and he would think, "You know, we can do things
together." So, without knowing it, and I didn't really realize
what was going on at the time, people started to become aware
that I had these condoms with me, and people started to ask me
for them. And I can recall quite vividly the day I was at a big
big nightclub in Vancouver called Celebrities. It was packed.
It was a Friday night, we were doing a show, and this person came
backstage. He was adorable. And he came up to me and he said,
"I hear that you have condoms. Is it true?" And I said,
"Maybe. Who are you wanting to do it with?" (Thinking
that it might be me.) And he said, "Well, my boyfriend."
I said, "Oh. Huh. Well all right." And I gave him a
couple of condoms.
Well, then I got an idea. Maybe before we do the show
I could give out a few more condoms. So I started to stock up
with the help of Steve Martindale, and before the show I would
go and hand out condoms to all of the people in the club, or as
many as I could get to. And it didn't matter to me whether you
were gay or straight or whether you were male or female or black
or white I didn't care. Because I knew that this is not
a prejudiced virus, and it will go the path of least resistance,
and if you are the one who is the least resistant, it will find
you. And so I thought everybody needed to be protected. And I
had been to the fundraisers and the cut-athons and the fuck-athons,
remember?I knew that there were going to be these people sitting
at tables at all of these events who had little bowls of condoms,
and you could, if you wanted to, go over there and pick up a couple
of condoms and slip them into your pocket, and everybody would
know that you were going to go get fucked that night. And how
many people are going to do that? I thought none. I wouldn't do
it. So, I went through the nightclub and this is my own
personal little thrill I put them in people's pockets. Or
I put them between their boobs. Or I shoved them right down their
pants. Wherever I could. And people started to recognize
that I was coming through the crowd and I had condoms. Well, my
purses started to get bigger. No longer could I carry a smart
little clutch. It now had to be a lunch kit. And then beyond that,
they started to get bigger and bigger and bigger. So it looked
liked I was a nun on my way to a bingo parlour. It would have
been the safest bingo in the world!
Eventually I started to have more fun with the audience than
I ever had up on stage. While I was up on stage exploring
all these issues about the Church and religion and all of that
sort of thing, I was having infinitely more fun with the audiences.
People would come up to me and ask me the most astounding questions.
Things that I know every clinic in the world wants them to walk
through the door and ask them. But they wouldn't. They
won't. They asked me. And believe me, I didn't know the answers
to a lot of those questions.
"Would you come over here for a second, Sister? I just
want to show you a little something." That worked once.
I never looked at another one again. I just said, "I don't
know what it is, but I think you should get a cigarette and burn
it off." I hope he didn't listen to me, wherever he is today.
You wouldn't believe what people will ask you in the middle of
a nightclub!
"My boyfriend says he's got exotic pets, Sister. What
is that?" It's something that crawls on your body and requires
Kwellada, that's what that is.
"Where do I go to get an abortion?" I've been asked
that question a couple of times. So you know what I said to the
woman who asked me that? I said, "Well I can tell you where
to go get an abortion, but what really upsets me, is that you
didn't practise safe sex. Is that you don't care about yourself
enough to make sure that he's got a condom on. And that really
upsets me. I will tell you that there are a lot of people here
who will say: Go have an abortion, it's the right thing to do.
And there are a lot of people who will say: Don't go have an abortion,
it's the wrong thing to do. I don't care what you do, but for
now, and from now on, wear a condom. Because there are a lot more
things to protect yourself from than just an unwanted baby. It's
your life." And she got that message, I hope. I don't know.
There's 600 people in a crowded nightclub. I don't know if she
got that message or not. And you only get 15 or 20 seconds as
you're going by, that's all you get.
But, I started to read, and I started to become a little bit
more aware. And Steve started sending me out on these conventions,
and all these kinds of things, and I got to come to great places
like this, and meet all of you, and hear your statistics, and
what wonderful statistics they are! I'm so moved by them! I can't
tell you how moved I am by them. In the same way that Ex-Lax moves
me, I am moved by statistics. I'm so glad you all made a break
from those numbers. But I will give you a couple of numbers: Most
condoms are 37/100th of a millimetre thick that's not very
thick! It's not, you know? It's a little thicker than my last
boyfriend's brain. I used to call him Deep and Wide. My spiritual
advisor: Deep and Wide. He knew.
I've got to sing you a song. This was a song that was the very
very first song that Sister C ever ever sang. It was performed
that night at the Gandydancer when we did the show called Christian
Women in the Church of the Poison Mind.
Come on in - don't be shy. Come on in!
It's a song that I rather love because it's a song from the
movie "The Colour Purple" that was sung from one woman
to another woman, and it's actually about being a lesbian. But
I now think of that song as being a song about my love that I
have for my friends that are gone, and also about the effect that
each and every single one of us Oh, time for a flip chart
see that? That's the truth. You're the role model. Every
single one of you is the role model. And this song that I'm going
to sing to you, it's about that. It's about being a role model.
You don't even know it, and I don't even know it, and sometimes
when I'm skateboarding down Granville Street, and I just whip
in for a slice of pizza, you know and I usually have this
habit on when I'm doing it somebody will see me, and it'll
be years later that they'll come to me and say, "It was because
I saw you that I thought it was okay to come out." It's amazing
when people say that to you! And you don't know when you are being
a role model, and I mean every single one of you. You don't know
what you're doing that actually is going to encourage somebody
to take control of their life, and that's the most amazing thing
that you can do, because that is much thicker than
37/100th of a millimetre of latex. It's much thicker.
(sings) "Sister, you been on my mind. Sister, we're
two of a kind. Sister, I'm keepin' my eyes on you. I'll bet you
think I don't know nothin' but singin' the blues. Oh sister, have
I got news for you: I'm something. I hope you think that you're
something too. Oh, shufflin' I been up that lonesome road and
I seen a lot of friends goin' down. Oh, but trust me, no low-life's
gonna rush me around. So let me tell you somethin' sister. Remember
your name. No twister can ever steal your stuff away, my sister,
we sure ain't got a whole lot of time. Get out and shake your
shimmy, sister, cuz honey your love, it just feels fine."
Yeah!
(applause)
I got to tell you a few things about what's happened to Sister
C since the journey began. One of the things is I decided I needed
a vacation, so I went to Mexico. I wasn't going to go to Mexico;
I had fallen in love with this guy in Europe and I wanted to go
to Europe, but he called me up and said that they were demolishing
his house and building a train track right through it, and I just
figured that that was not going to be very good and peace and
quiet, so I decided to go to Mexico.
So there I was, in Mexico, on the beach, and of course
we're like magnets, are we not? we find every other fag
within a hundred miles. You know, we find them. I don't know what
it is; it's like some kind of an odor that Speedo gives off or
something. So I went to the beach, and I'm sitting there and I'm
writing postcards, you know, and feeling quite lovely about it
all, you know. And I looked around on the beach and there were
these beautiful, beautiful young Mexican men, maybe 15, maybe
14, maybe 12 some of them? The 12-year olds were a little bit
in the background. And there were all these North American men
from Vancouver, where I was from, from Montreal, from San
Francisco, from Chicago most of whom were college-educated
and 32, or older, and they were having fun with these Mexican
boys. I think that that's perfectly okay, except that I know for
a fact that there was an awful lot of unsafe sex going on, and
I know for a fact that a lot of those people had gone there to
die. And I knew that the virus had found the path of least resistance.
I knew it. I was sitting there watching it happen.
So while I was sitting there writing my postcards this guy
came over to me, his name was Carlos, and he said, "How come
you're not like everybody else down here?" I said, "What
do you mean?" And he said, "Well, for one thing, you
haven't picked up a single hustler, and for another thing you're
not drinking anything." And I said, "Well, I just want
to enjoy the sun, I just need to get away and, you know, that's
all, that sort of thing." And then somebody from Vancouver
walked over it always happens and said, "Sister!
How are ya?" Now Carlos was like 30-something, and so cute,
and from Mexico City, and I was trying to shmooze him a little,
you know? I didn't need to be called "Oh Sister! How are
ya?" It was just not going to happen with me and Carlos after
that. Anyway the person went away and Carlos says, "What
the hell is 'Oh, Sister'?" So I told him what Sister was,
and he said, "Well, you know what? I know the bar owner here
who owns the big bar in town, and, you know, maybe he can help,
maybe you can do a show for him or something like that."
So anyway, we went and met him. To make a long story short,
we went to meet him, and another fabulous friendship started.
All you have to do, people, is announce to the world what you
need, and the world will provide it. It's taken me a long time
to learn that lesson. You just announce what you need, and the
world will provide it. So there I was, talking to this Mexican
bar owner, and before I knew it fast-forward the clocks
three or four years he had paid four times for me
to go to Mexico. Four flights, four hotels, four times all the
food, four times all the taxis he picked up the tab for
everything. And all I had to do was smuggle 2000 condoms into
the country, a whole bunch of nun's drag, and do eight or nine
shows for him in a couple of weeks. And that's what we did.
I want to tell you about what happens at the Mexican border,
when they find out that you have condoms on your person. I arrived,
of course, like every other drag queen, with 12 pieces of luggage.
You would have thought that Fergie was actually with me in one
of those pieces. One piece for me, she's in one, and the other
10 are hers. So, of course, you go I don't know if any of
you have been you go and there's a red light and green light
and you press the button and it it's red, they search your luggage,
and if it's green, you go on and get your cab. Well, first time,
I hit the red light. My luggage was packed thusly: on the top
there were two tank tops, two pairs of shorts, and a pair of sandals.
Just underneath there, there was five nun's habits, about 40 CDs,
probably about 50 crosses and crucifixes, a set of pylons (because
I was doing Madonna back in those days), and I think that there
might have been one or two Bibles, and these boots. Then, underneath
that, there were 2000 condoms. And then, underneath that, there
were 50 books that Little Sister's had given me, to donate to
the very, very fledgling gay and lesbian library. If they had
found the books, I would not be here today. I would be in some
prison. It is illegal to be gay in Mexico. And it is certainly
illegal to bring those books on safer sex into the country.
But I did stand-by, and you should have seen the look on this
poor little Catholic Mexican fellow's face as he pulled out one
crucifix, and a rosary, and then one that was actually hand-made
in Mexico, which he recognized. And then he pulled out the nun's
habit, and you know, he pulled it all out and he was looking rather
contrite, and then suddenly, he got to the condoms, and he pulled
out one condom, and I don't know what happened, but I could see
this little giggle, and I'm sure that it started somewhere right
around here, and it slowly creeped up, and it slowly creeped up,
and when he saw how many condoms there were, by the time it got
to his mouth, he was burst out laughing, he was busting a gut,
calling over his friends, "Come, look, loco, loco loco! Loco,
loco! Hee hee heeahh!" Oh, they gathered in, they came from
behind the courtesy desk, the girl who was doing the cash exchange
came over, the people in the taxi stalls came in, they were staring
in my luggage at 2000 condoms. And of course, I laughed with them.
And then, over came some "oficional" and he said "bla
bla bla." And I said the only two Mexican words that I knew:
"Cruz roja. Cruz roja." Red Cross. I want you
to know, if there is one thing that Mexicans can do, it's pack
luggage. That it was packed better than I had I could
not possibly have packed it up that good. There was room for Fergie
in there afterwards! (That's before the Weight Watchers program,
too!) So, anyway, I got in with my 2000 condoms and we distributed
them and started on a whole bunch more.
There have been a few rifts along the way, and I'd like to
tell you about one. I did land up in court once. The Sister has
been to court. And I'm here to tell you, if you ever go to court
I don't know if any of you have ever been to court
if you ever go to court, go hysterical! Go crazy! Go ballistic!
Get up there on that stand and fight for all you've got! Tell
it exactly the way that it happened and embellish it even a little
bit if you have to. Wear the most outrageous thing that you've
got. Send out press releases, get all of the reporters in there,
and I'm not kidding you pack the place with your friends
and have them cheer every time you open your mouth! I did not
do that, but I wish I had!
We had done a show, me and another drag queen, at a place called
the Denman Station, which is in Vancouver, and in the middle of
the show we did the safe sex demonstration, that's what usually
went on. We'd blitz the crowd with condoms, and then come out
and do a couple of performances, you know, a couple of drag numbers,
and then do a condom demonstration, and then we were exhausted.
And so we decided that we would go for lemonade. Now, the West
End of Vancouver is a gay ghetto I don't know if any of
you know I call it "Fags and Hags deVille, which is
the village. It's all old women and gay men that's it: Fags
and Hags. Now we have this Eastern European population which has
moved in, and I just love that a bit more culture.
So, so (my boyfriend is from the Balkans, God love his heart),
so anyway, there we were sitting at this place, I can't
what was it called the Bread Garden, on Denman Street. Me,
I was wearing my fabulous, brand-new, gold-sequined habit, and
Ms. Adrien was wearing something equally as ravishing, trying
to hide the fact that she's a few pounds overweight. And she goes
up to the counter she was and she orders, you know,
the usual whatever it was, a burrito with extra sour cream or
something, and I ordered, you know, a lemonade, so then we're
outside, we're sitting on the terrace, and we're talking over
the show, and we're talking over tomorrow "Oh, you
want to go to Value Village, girl? We haven't been there in weeks."
all of a sudden this guy walks up to me, and he says, "Why
are you dressed like a nun?" Hmhh. I said, "I'm Sister
C. So pleased to make your acquaintance. And what was your name?
I didn't catch it." And he looked at my hand, and scoffed,
"Pfuhh!" he didn't spit at me, but he kind of
scoffed at me and he said, "I wanna know why you're
dressed like a nun!" And I said, "Well as a matter of
fact, we just did a show down the street." Now, I work in
mental health when I'm not dressed like a nun, and there are a
few things I have learned working in mental health. One of them
is: how to tell when someone's angry. This fellow's eyes
oh my dear, I have seen erections smaller! I have. He had veins
coming out of his neck. They were just protruding, like this.
And his voice was quickly approaching soprano. You know what I
mean? I'm thinking: rage. Any minute now, black eye. So I kind
of got up from my chair, you know, ever so delicate like the creature
that I am, and I backed away just a little bit, and before you
knew it, he swung. And I ducked, and my glasses went flying. And
I looked at my friend, Adrien, and I said, "Call the police."
And she went running inside to call the police. Uhm, I have to
tell you, suddenly I became aware of something...
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...five feet eight, and probably about, hmmmm, 150 pounds?
I thought that maybe the scales were tipped a little in my direction.
So I did what any normal, God-fearing nun would do: I jumped him.
Now, I want you to know that the world is not without its comedy
quite naturally, there was a woman we were on a patio
there was a woman out on the street with her husband, and
as if it had happened today I remember the words: "Marvin,
do you think that's a wo-man?" [laughter] "Marvin, that
nun is beating up that man!" I had him down on the ground,
I had my hands around his throat, and I was quite envisualizing
the revenge of all of the gay people of all the generations that
had ever gone on before me, when suddenly another patron yanked
me off of him. It was over before it even began, you know, it
was one of those things. But, as the judge clearly said, in his
summation, "If there is one thing that people don't forget,
it's who threw the first punch." And he threw the
first punch. Well, I still don't know why he did that, I don't
know what upset him about that, I can tell you that, years later,
the man still stalks me, he has attempted to discredit me and
destroy parts of my life. I have been ostracized from organizations
and from my church because of him; it's not been an easy road.
And what happened in court was that he went in and was
hysterical. And he yelled and screamed. At one point he
was standing up in the courtroom pointing at me and yelling, "He
is a fucking faggot freak!" Twice he yelled
that! And I looked at the judge, thinking, "Surely you will
stop this, your Honour, good Sir." No. When the judge released
his report, the judge basically said that it was a tie. Even though
he threw the first punch! The judge acknowledged that he threw
the first punch. "It was a tie." Uhm, and, basically
it's called a draw I don't know what the legal term is,
but we were both kind of nicely shown to the door. A lawyer, unbeknownst
to me, ended up writing that judge up for being homophobic. So
that judge will be prevented from ever sitting in the Supreme
Court of British Columbia, for that case. So, at least there was
some retribution against the judge. And that man I haven't
actually heard tale of that man for a couple of years, and I still
don't know why he did what he did. I suppose I do offend a few
people...(laughs)...Too bad.
I'm quickly coming to an end. I want you to know that one of
the most effective things that I do is I get attention. And the
reason that I get attention is because I dress outrageously and
I do outrageous things. And sometimes that takes a lot of courage.
And I know that what each and every single one of you do can also
require that level of courage. I especially know that some of
you people who are not working in Canada, who are not working
in the comforts of all of this First World, have got courageous
struggles that you have to undertake, and I actually pay tribute
to you for that, because it cannot be easy what you have to do
in the trenches that you are working in which are vastly different
than the ones we work in.
I just want to say a little bit about the "Angel"
program, which is up here. The Angel program was a program that
we ran last summer. Now, I don't know how many of you work for
AIDS service organizations out there, but pretty much with the
exception of the British Columbia Persons With AIDS Society and
the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS, the AIDS service organizations
in Vancouver and I have had a fairly estranged relationship. I
don't know what that's about either. I tend to ignore it. I think
that it's better just to go and do the work. I don't understand
sometimes that level of conflict, and I would rather not give
it any energy. The Sister C's Angels program was run last summer,
and here was the idea: I go out to these nightclubs and I give
condoms to people, and at the end of the night, you know, I'm
walking home and I'm feeling pretty good about myself. I'm thinking,
"You know, you did a good thing tonight." And even if
one of those people uses a condom, that's an okay thing. But maybe
more will. So, I got to thinking, "Maybe other people would
like to feel this way."
Now, I recruited people to do the same kind of thing that I
do, to just hand out condoms and I know sometimes I've even
been criticized, somebody said to me once, "That's such an
eighties approach to AIDS." I loved the '80s!
"Ninety-nine luftballoons, floating" I loved that
'80s! Anyway, there we were I recruited these people, again:
men, women, gay, straight, black, white, purple, yellow, it didn't
make any difference to me, we needed to reach everybody and I
wanted everybody to have that experience. Now these people thought
that what they were doing was outreach, but in fact they
were the experiment. They didn't realize that. So it was a little
bit different than usual. What we wanted to do, and this was working
with the BC Centre, was we wanted to effect change in people,
and by effecting change in people, we wanted to do that by making
them accountable. So if you have to hand somebody a condom, you
have to have some level of accountability within yourself.
So, we, for 12 weekends in a row, in the summer of 1998, recruited
a group of about 35 volunteers. We targeted our groups; sometimes
we took all leathermen, sometimes I took all lesbians, most of
the time I took a mixed crowd, and we would go into the clubs.
We met, we had the support of a number of the restaurants in Vancouver,
we would meet at a restaurant, and we usually ran with a group
of about six people per night. Each person was given a lunch kit,
each lunch kit was full of these: condom packs. The condom packs
were graciously donated by the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS
and also from the Bad Boys Line, which is a sex line. I have safer
sex messages on that phone line, and people can access those safer
sex messages all the time. They're a free service. My attitude
has always been: wherever there's sex, you should have a Sister.
And so they're having sex on the net, we'll go on the net. Wherever
people are having sex, that's where we are. I've actually been
in print media, radio, television and on the phone lines. And
always the same thing, just tell people it's okay to have sex.
They still need to hear that message.
So, we would get these groups of people together, we would
meet somewhere, there was always a topic of discussion at the
beginning of the night. Sometimes we talked about condoms, sometimes
we talked about lube, sometimes we talked about at that
time there was a bit of an outbreak of syphilis in the area, we
talked about that hepatitis one night...we just talked about
different things. So, and the message that we gave to people was,
"This information that you're getting, you have to pass that
on to somebody tonight. It doesn't matter where. If we go to the
Royal, you can pass it on to somebody there, if we go to the"
wherever, you know? And people did. And suddenly people started
to become accountable. Now, I can't I don't have any way
to measure whether or not that made a difference in those 35 people's
lives, but I think it did. I think it made a big difference. Because
those people are still in contact with me today. Those people
have gone on to do other great things and now volunteer at various
AIDS service organizations. I think it does make a difference
when you make people accountable for what they do. It really does
make a difference.
The other thing that happened was, because Sister C is such
a recognizable symbol of AIDS outreach work in Vancouver we uniformed
people, and we uniformed them with some cash from one of the local
businesses. That's one of the great things about being Sister
C: a lot of the local businesses graciously give money, and one
of the local businesses sponsored these T-shirts, so we had T-shirts
and hats for everybody that made them quite recognizable. And
at the end of an evening, at the Odyssey or wherever we were,
it made it easy for me to round them up and get them out of the
bar. I have to be honest, it was quite a selfish thing on my side.
So, who would like a hat? Anybody like a hat? There you go, I
saw that hand up first. Okay, I have some shirts too. Anybody
want shirts? Ah, here you go. Ah, one more, oh, there you go.
Is this where is this one going, tell me where it's going?
[Response: Mexico] Cruz roja. Still don't know anything
else.
Uhm, and then at the end of the night, too, at two o'clock
in the morning or two-thirty in the morning, whenever we were
finished, we would sit at another coffee bar which, again, always
donated to us, and the people would talk about their experiences.
And the experiences were amazing, and I knew that they would be
amazing. People did ask them those questions. People did ask them
the questions that they asked me. "I have this thing on my...do
you want to come and have a look?" Poor Bridget. She's never
quite felt the same about cauliflower, you know what I mean? And
then there was still time for me to do performances, so sometimes
what would happen is we'd go into a nightclub, there'd be a show
going on, I'd go up on stage, flip them a cassette or a CD or
whatever, go and do a performance, and then the Angels would blitz
the crowd, we'd get down off the stage it was orchestrated
like some kind of a New York stage show, I tell you and
then we'd be out into the parking lot, filling up condoms, filling
the bags up again, and off to the next place. We had stops along
the way, various coat check people worked in conjunction with
us in these nightclubs. All of the nightclubs cooperated
with us. We didn't have to wait in line anywhere. We went
in, we left supplies of condoms where we were.
Now people ask me, "Where did you get all those condoms?"
Because Sister C has no budget. Zero. I don't cost anything. The
condoms are donated. I'm telling you right now, I have begged,
I have borrowed, and I have stolen. And plenty of weeks I have
stolen. I have worked in conjunction with the local health ministry
in the province. Sometimes you've got to go through the hurdle
rather than over it, and that's okay. I have worked largely in
conjunction with St. Paul's Hospital; they have been very
generous to me. And also, the local outreach clinics. Those people
are amazing those front-line nurses who work there? I think
that they know, and so that's why they just give, so generously.
It's amazing what those people do. So, that's the kind of response
that is required to do what I do, and I know that you don't need
to have a big ASO budget to do effective work, because I do effective
work, and it doesn't cost any money. It does cost somebody, but
not me. Hundred bucks what do you think of this outfit?
Paid for out of my own money.
So, I have to tell you though, there is a bit of a swan song
going on. I have been doing this work now for 10 years, and come
September, I will return to school to study nursing. I currently
work as a mental health counselor, and I want to go and become
a nurse. And I think it's a good calling for me. I don't know
that I want to work in Canada; I haven't made that decision yet.
But I come from a long line of nurses, and ambulance drivers and
people who wash laundry in hospitals. So, I'm going to carry on
a family tradition and do that, which means that the habit has
got to be hung up for a while, and I think, actually, probably
for good. But, that doesn't mean that I won't be around, and it
doesn't mean that the work won't be around. I'm already recruited
to help with the vaccine trials going on in Vancouver. I still
will be visible. I will be hosting the Gay Pride Parade this year,
as Garry Johnson, because it's my talent that they require, not
my outfit, they told me. I said, "Yes, but my outfit is so
nice!" And, of course, my work and your work is very similar,
so that's the kind of work that I will continue to do. I now work,
as well as working at a mental health centre, I work at a shelter
for the homeless who are drug-addicted in the Downtown Eastside.
I just recently started working there about two months ago, and
it's a good place for me to be. So I'm ready to take some questions,
if you have any. If you don't have any, that's fine. We'll finish
with a song and you can go on your way...You'll have to come to
the mike, though, I guess...Oh, okay, yes, I can do an Oprah thing.
All right. I'm not going to take that literally. I wouldn't really
do Oprah. Maybe Geraldo. Oh he's cute; it's that Spanish
thing.

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